• RageAgainstTheRich@lemmy.world
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      I saw a person here in western europe with a trump flag… A giant fucking trump flag hanging out their apartment window… These people are absolutely fucked in the head.

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          I think the only place where flying the Nazi flag is actually illegal is Germany.

          Personally I think it should be perfectly legal to fly the Nazi flag. If only so that the rest of the population knows who you are.

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            The problem is not flying the flag. The problem is what flying the flag does: spreading the message and emboldening those who would otherwise be harmless. Or worse, recruit impressionable folks.

            So you cut that shit right off the bud before it spreads.

            It’s like cancer. You don’t reason with cancer. You don’t say “you have the right to do your thing, but get along with the rest of me, yes?” You cut that shit off right away.

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              But then we didn’t stomp it all out and the cancer becomes trump flags that sprout and grow like weeds.

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              I find it interesting to see someone ‘admit,’ that humans can’t be trusted to be reasoned with… It’s an interesting perspective, that’s for sure.

              America in recent years backs up your point. Have you lived in other developed countries though?

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                Yes, I’ve lived in Europe. And no, this is not an America problem. It’s a humanity problem.

                Christianity, the nazis, Scientology, “the Swifties,” the countless sects, schemes like Herbalife and their “cult of success,” hell, the sports fans willing to beat up others because they use a shirt of a different color!

                You use the term “interesting” as if it was a very novel concept. It isn’t. Or am I wrong for having perceived it that way?

                For example: sex offenders are a global thing. Go to freaking Stavanger, Norway, and you’ll find people you can’t reason with about “rape bad, m’kay?”

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                I’m not saying that everyone will psychopathic tendencies would be harmless; but definitely way less.

                Let’s put it this way, although I concede that it’s not a perfect analogy: those stats about the risk of death increasing in a household after someone in it purchases a gun? Same deal. The father, the son, the daughter may think “I’m going to kill this mf one day!!” But that day never comes. Oh, but a gun is all of a sudden available? It’s very easy, in those circumstances, for someone with those thoughts to just go get it a brandish it.

                How about the reverse, when it actually is something positive? In my hometown in the late 90s, people started complaining that “so many gays invaded our city.” Nope, “them gays” were always in the city, in the closet. Then a new message, spread through the internet, saying that it was okay to be gay. And people realized, “hey there’s actually many more of us in our city. I’m not alone!” and they were emboldened to just come out of the closet. That’s a positive situation, like I said.

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        It makes perfect sense when you realize that Trump is a symbol to international fascists. Let’s not forget that after 2016 the world shifted significantly to the right, and had normalized fascist rhetoric to 30% of the population in one of the largest nations in the world

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        Yeah and that’s not even really a political statement, that’s a dog whistle flag, that person is an asshole and sees themselves in Trump

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      In Canada’s defence most of these people are based out of Russia anyway

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        There are way too many of them locally too. At one point they identified themselves with their combination of FUCK TRUDEAU flags and Trump bumper stickers on their trucks.

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          Fun fact, I was driving through a major city in Southern Ontario recently, and on the outskirts there was a guy selling flags, there was a “fuck Trudeau” flag for sale.

          Up the road and around the corner, someone felt the need to hang that exact flag at the end of their driveway. It had obviously been there for a while since it was half missing and only read “fu tru” which I think is a more valid message. I had a chuckle.

          I’ve seen a lot more, but this was one of the most recent sightings, only a few weeks ago.

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          There’s some weird obsession with north americans that they seem to think they don’t have substantial amount of problematic people among themselves.

          I guess it’s just easier to blame everything, and I mean everything wrong is a Russian/Chinese psyops.

          Ignorance is indeed a bliss.

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    This guy is so goddamn weird. I would love to find out what the rusty gears in his brain are doing to make him like this. Dude. Mind your own country’s shit.

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    Looks like born, raised, and lives in Malaysia.

    From knowyourmeme:

    In the latter half of the 2010s, Cheong continued to grow an audience as a conservative Trump supporter on X under the handle @stillgray. Since 2017, he’s worked for the Daily Caller, a website co-founded by broadcast journalist Tucker Carlson. His commentary on U.S. politics is often undercut by people pointing out the fact that Cheong is a Malaysian native and resident.

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      broadcast journalist Tucker Carlson

      Fuck whoever wrote this. He’s a fuckin propagandist that talks on an opinion show… For him to be considered a journalist is a gigantic insult to journalism for fucks sake… Opinion shows are not journalism.

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      You have to be a special kind of dip shit to not only support Trump, but to do so when you’re not even American.

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        Considering those people want to replace American government with a king… it kinda makes sense.

        But those people literally prefer trump to America.

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    I’ve got to hand it to the folks that are staying on Twitter to dunk on jerks in the Clarification Box.

    True heroes with stronger stomachs than I.

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      I honestly wouldn’t go as far as to call them “heroes” in that a lot of them are just contrarians who want to piss off other people on the internet and likely have very little in the way of political ideology.

      It just so happens that most of the loudest voices on twitter are also horrible shitnazis so they are going to get the brunt of the community-note trolling.

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    Ian Miles Cheong’s Twitter-fame is baffling to me. I often follow conservative people on there if they’re in an important position of some sort, but this guy has accomplished nothing that makes his perspective more relevant than the average schmuck.

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    Does anybody know how the ‘Readers added context’ feature works? It seems to be really effective and I’m surprised it was invented by X of all places.

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      It was added by Twitter before Elon broke it.

      “Trusted individuals” get to propose context, and it’s vetted by a bunch of other trusted individuals. Everyone then votes if it’s good or not. Context that is too contentious will probably get removed. If you keep proposing notes everyone hates then you lose the status.

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    That’s nothing! Trump was born in SE Asia and was adopted by US citizens, but never took his naturalization test, so he’s not a citizen either. Can you believe that? I mean sure you can, you believed that other thing.

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    “Sure you are, buddy”

    You know you can support someone without voting for (or being able to vote for) them, right?

    Just like all the under 18s who pulled for Sanders, lol.

    This is not a debunking of anything. If you know anything about this guy, you’d have little reason to doubt that he absolutely is on Trump’s side, lol.

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    There are so many comments on the US election from people who have zero participation in it.

    By itself that’s fine, but point it out please. “I’m not a US voter, but” or something. I get these bizarre takes that make sense only after realizing the commenter isn’t familiar with US elections - which is good news. Because what I’m used to are bizarre takes from people who are (or should be) familiar with them.

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      It might be due to the fact that I mostly consume media in English, but I hear more about US elections than I heard about the EU parliament elections which were last month. A lot of people are interested, and for good reasons - it’s going to influence much more than US itself. I don’t think you can go back to keeping your elections to yourself without keeping your military, pop cultural and corporate influence to yourself aswell.

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        No and that’s totally valid, but when I see something like “Joe Biden should do X or he’s going to lose the vote!” My immediate context fir that is that it’s a US voter saying that. So my response might be something like, “you moron, he obviously can’t do that because of the Bollocks vs. Chowderhead decision of 1972.”

        BUT - If I were aware that they were saying that as an interested observer from another country, I could say”oh, well here it’s different because of Bollocks. See what had happened was . . .”

        It’s just a fundamentally different conversation.

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      I wish the rest of the world could just ignore your spectacular brand of stupidity but unfortunately things that happen in the US affect the rest of the world. Would be quite happy if that were not the case, but you lot tend to get the rest of the West embroiled in stupid wars.

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        When candidates start attempting to changed the governmental system by force, with violence… A death… And still have the idiotic in the country support him… it forces us to take note.

        I would argue the same would be true if someone like this existed in British politics.

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      Yeah it makes complete sense. They aren’t arguing one side over the other…

      They are arguing the simple principle of whether Americans should vote for a king who tried to take powers or not.

      It’s relevant to the lives of the world sine the moment so much evidence has been proved against trump.

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        I’m a bot because I’ve acknowledged that people around the world support / sympathize with Trump? C’mon man, you’re better than that.

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      “Support” how? They can’t vote here. Do they just mean spreading incendiary opinions online? Or are they actually sending a politician in another country money!? Wouldn’t put that past MAGAs, though…

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    Controversial take: Trump is the only American president in recent history that broke away from the policy of war and invasion. Bush Jr, Obama and Biden all left a very bloody legacy, and were direcly responsible for mass murder. If you are not American, then supporting Trump makes a lot of sense.

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      Remember when Trump dropped the biggest non-nuclear bomb the US military has on Afghanistan for no good reason? Designed for flattening buildings on the surface they deployed it against a tunnel complex.

      Remember when he pulled out of the Iran Nuclear deal and the invited one of their top Generals to Iraq and then assassinated him with a drone?

      Remember when he wanted to employ the US military against protestors on US Soil and called for the Insurrection Act?

      Remember when he ended the policy of reporting Drone strikes outside of official warzones so useful idiots would think he wasn’t a war monger?

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      Yes, I’m sure the Palestinians will be very relieved when Trump gives Israel even more toys to flatten them with.

      Ukraine and the rest of Eastern Europe will also be pleased to return to the USSR.

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        I’m sure the Palestinians will be very relieved when Trump gives Israel even more toys to flatten them with.

        How is this any different from what Biden is doing? Biden gave a blank check to Israel to commit mass murder and sent them weapons.

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      Do you people literally live in the states and not just listen to be calls… The trump election calls.

      Like how fucking dunse do you need to be to still want a king, and not actually check the crimes he committed.

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        Like how fucking dunse do you need to be to still want a king

        Every four years, conservatives have to fight to get their team into office. That’s expensive and difficult and often requires compromise with a bunch of people they hate.

        To quote former president George W Bush:

        If this were a dictatorship it would be a heck of a lot easier… as long as I’m the dictator. Hehehe

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          A king undermines the concept of a republican party. You see that right!?

          Trump literally tried to go against governmental policy. Republican policy too…

          That’s a good bush joke… you even included the part where he admits the joke. Hehehe

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    Every word uttered by a conservative is deception or manipulation. Honesty is not a conservative trait. It never has been.

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        No, it’s primarily hatred. They great what they hate. The decency in conservatives I’ve known is skin-deep. Spend enough time with them, they’ll show you who they really are…

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        My entire lifetime conservative === Republican. And they’ve been lying, fear mongering and cheating as long as I’ve been alive.

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            It’s not about their different politics though. It’s about them being dishonest liars who’ll say or do whatever they need to in the moment to accomplish end they want.

            Newt Gingrich was a lying piece of shit before Trump was even a blip on the radar.

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              I don’t disagree with that either … but maga people were newt people.

              But it’s important to not make categorical errors… Many conservative Americans aren’t like that. (Maybe a small many, but still)

              If you actually want the Dems to win the election, then you should be correct in your language. Otherwise you hand the other side votes.

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                maga people were newt people

                Disagree, they may have been predecessors but as I said Trump wasn’t even a blip on the radar yet. You might as well say Grover Norquist was a MAGAt. If we’re tracing the toxicity back we can go all the way back to FDR. The right is a party of failed policies and incorrect theories, full stop.

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                  You are not understanding me.

                  I’m saying the people who are dumb enough to fall for populist bullshit and lies… and never check the evidence themselves… fall for both of these conmen.

                  But there are conservative Americans that don’t also. It’s not hard to understand. Accurate language is important.