I feel bad for people who have never been addicted to anything, because they’re the real losers. You want to know why? Because they don’t know what it’s like to really want something - and then get it again and again and again. (Marc Maron)
But seriously, the one thing I’m proud of in my life is that I was able to quit smoking. Hard, but so worth it!
Well done my dude
Same.
But whooooo damn do I occasionally miss having a smoke.
I’ve not smoked for more years than I smoked at this point, but the habit is in me. My brain only remembers the good parts.
My mother quit smoking 25 years ago and still has panic attacks about it every few weeks.
That pisses her off so she won’t ever smoke again.
I live with two roommates in a flat. One of them smokes. Of course, he has to smoke indoors as well, as if the whole place is his (we got two balconies btw) . Can’t describe when I get home after a long day in uni to come back to a flat that smells like a smoking friendly bar.
So start smoking and you won’t even notice.
Seriously though, as a lifelong smoker I do my best to keep it from being anyone else’s problem.
I agree. There is a difference between being a smoker and being an inconsiderate dick.
I won’t lie though, judging from how much of the litter where I live is cigarettes butts and packs, there seems to be a rather large overlap.
Add people who drink Tim Horton’s coffee and that’s a solid 80% of the litter I see.
(Am smoker, will carry smelly butts rather than throw them on the street)
I feel like this should’ve been discussed before moving in together. Still not too late to talk though - if he’s even a little bit considerate, he’ll agree to only smoke outside.
yeah that’s a dick move. I’m a smoker but i only smoke tobacco outdoors. i like being in a space i can smoke indoors, but it’s not gonna be my place
I used to work with a guy that smoked and refused to wear a seat-belt. He carried a gun though, just in case his life was in danger.
So if he loses control of his car and is heading at a tree, he can shoot the tree in self defense.
Ah yes. The Maple Doctrine.
You’re being ridiculous. Of course the gun is to offset his momentum. Couple shots should do it. \s
My work buddy will only eat meals made from single-ingredient foods because of “all the extra shit they put in there”, and smokes a pack a week.
Your work buddy isn’t wrong with that tbh
So no banana then, huh?
I thought you guys were talking about processed foods. Like potatoes > bread, that kind of thing.
I process my non-processed foods in hopes that it will kill me quick quicker. :p
I’m so dark and cold inside. You wouldn’t understand.
Huht huht huht
This is a bit disingenuous. When listed like that on food it’s because all of those were added in individually to create an ultra processed amalgamation resembling food. Otherwise ingredients would just say bannana.
Processed foods have been clinically shown to be harmful to us. Bannanas seem to be okay
I guess it still leaves store-bought bread out I guess. Or yoghurt. Or milk
But nah, I really do think it’s extreme. Pre-made food isn’t bad for you
Either that or I’m just being European, idk
I think there’s a difference between prepared food and processed food. It can be a blurry line though.
Maybe it is just being European though. American food standards are trash. The stuff allowed in our food is insane
I wouldn’t call bread or yoghurt prepared instead of processed personally though, they’ve been through multiple chemical and biological processes.
Ultra processes foods is something that tends to be more appropriate I think. That’s stuff like chips or fast food. Though even that I consider fine to eat in moderation, and I, personally, do. Though I agree it would be better if I completely cut those out. I just tend to eat a lot of pre-made foods due to disability reasons (frozen pizzas, pastas, and the like)
But yeah, I do know that the US has some very lax food laws unfortunately. So maybe that is a big part of the difference
When he sees that nicotine feller, he’s going to shoot him right between the eyes.
Poor Nic (a teen):
I’ve smoked 3 packs a day by 25 y/o. Started with 17. stopped with 27. I don’t regret stopping, I feel better. But I miss it.
3 whole fucking packs a DAY? Did you even breathe normal air?
I had the luxury to smoke on my job. I smoked a lot.
I can relate.
I never got as bad as my father, who used a lighter once a day and lit the rest of them off of the last one.
I smoke about a half a pack a day and feel like a dick for it. I’d like to quit, but i don’t want to.
All this woke ass anti cigarette shit! Y’all have obviously never enjoyed a cup of coffee and a smoke on a still summer morn. A post coital puff as your lover plays her fingers through your chest hair like smoke on the water. Good lord I miss cigarettes!
But seriously never smoke, it smells terrible, will ruin your health, and is an all around terrible proposition.
Yeah, it was fun for a while. The good thing is, so many people stopped smoking in the last few years, that smoking stopped to be this special social thing.
I never smoked, but had to hang out with smokers outside the office building at my first job, if I wanted a bit of break and chat with colleagues. I usually brought a glass of water with me.
Happy that this is not the case anymore.
I quit by vaping off of cigarettes, and then gradually reducing the nicotine in vape juice until I was vaping 0 nicotine for a couple of months, then stopped altogether. Been nicotine free for several years now, and no cravings.
This is how I finally quit for good.
Meanwhile idiots like me ended up vaping all day long and when I went back to cigarettes my tolerance was through the roof and I smoked more than I ever did.
Gotta taper the nicotine down, even if you vape like a chimney out of habit, that way when you do try a cigarette again the nicotine is overpowering and gross
True! I was out of my element last year and ran out of juice due to poor planning. Resorted to sharing a smoke and felt like garbage for the next two days.
I do still miss the smell, though. Probably just nostalgia from feeling like a Cool Guy for the first time in my life choking down a Camel unfiltered behind the 7-11.
There’s still hope. I still chain vape, but the amount of nicotine I use is but a whisper. It’s entirely a routine at this point. I’m figuring out positive actions I can do whenever I feel the need to suck on my robot dick.
Asexual non smoker here. I have bad news for you:
The urge of sucking robot dick is truly universal and inevitable.
I’m hoping we make First Contact soon so I can make a healthy transition from Robot Dick to Alien Dick.
Sorry, that’s insensitive.
Xenophallus.
I smoked from the time I was 15, until I was 33. I got a prescription for something called Chantix that worked really well for me to quit permanently.
It worked well for a few people I knew, but one guy said it made him really depressed / suicidal.
Chantix isn’t available anymore because of something that was in it that might cause cancer, but there’s a generic form of it called varenicline that may or may not be available in your country. Ask your doctor maybe if there’s a pill that will help you quit.
Yeah, this worked well for me, too. The generic one you mention also had less side effects for me. There’s still the vivid dreams / nightmares, but less intense.
From Chantix /Champix I recollect the spider dreams and floor crumbling beneath me.
But hey, anything to quit smoking.
This reads like a Pharma advert.
Nearly all of my family smokes, and I fucking hate it. There were countless times, as far as I can remember, when I tried to do something with my dad, it was nice for a while, then he goes for a ‘quick smoke’ and stays there forever.
I can put my life in danger. I can put your life in danger. But I draw the line when you put my life in danger.
I live alone and actively wish I could die. I’m not hurting anyone but myself.
I am glad that it’s not cool with the younger generations, and that the whole vaping fad kinda died back.
Still though, the amount of self righteousness and lack of empathy from some non smokers really makes me glad that I will never have to hang out with those types of people.
Addiction is a hell of a thing, and when the alternative is worse than quitting, it’s extremely difficult to quit.
the amount of self righteousness and lack of empathy from some non smokers really makes me glad that I will never have to hang out with those types of people.
Youre seriously trying to guilt trip non-smokers here? Sure, addiction is horrible and some people are really struggling, but the majority of smokers I know dont give a shit that theyre actively killing others by blowing smoke into their faces on the street. Its ignorant and toxic behavior which is tolerated because of decades of brainwashing by the industry.
I have very little empathy for people who choose hurting others for their own convenience. Maybe start with empathy for poor people that struggle surviving because they are being exploited, or people that are systemically suppressed, then move on to empathy for smokers and other criminals.
I hope you get better, but your struggles dont excuse the millions of smokers actively harming their environments without a care in the world.
I’m not trying to guilt trip anyone. The self righteous superior people clearly dgaf what I think and the feeling is mutual.
… killing others by blowing smoke into their faces on the street.
Ah yes, the age old tradition of going up to a non smoker and blowing smoke directly in their faces. Fun times.
I’ve been a smoker for a very long time and I’ve never seen that happen, unless you count shotgunning cannabis, and that was always consensual.
Let’s get real for just a second. What you actually mean is occasionally you catch a whiff of cigarette smoke while outside. I’m sure you don’t go stand next to smoker, and I’m positive that they don’t “blow smoke into your face”.
Even in my backwards ass state, you can’t smoke indoors in public places, so it must be outside.
If you are so concerned about your health that you think simply smelling cigarette smoke and walking away will kill you, I sure hope you never leave the house, attend a BBQ, or go camping, because you will likely be exposed to other smells just as likely to kill you as that.
I have very little empathy for people…
That much is clear
Maybe start with empathy for poor people that struggle surviving because they are being exploited, or people who are systematically suppressed
Who says I don’t? Who says I don’t fall into those categories myself? Having empathy for one group of people does not preclude you from having empathy for others. I’ve never shot heroin or smoked crack, but I feel bad for people struggling with those addictions.
I don’t condone smoking indoors where non smokers live or around non smokers if they are outdoors and can’t walk away for some reason, I just don’t think someone should be treated as if they are human excrement simply because they are a smoker. You don’t agree, that’s fine as long as I’m not forced to be around you or have to listen to your sermons.
I’m not trying to guilt trip anyone. The self righteous superior people clearly dgaf what I think and the feeling is mutual.
There you go again with the fucking victim role and guilt tripping. Dont even need to read the rest of your bullshit. Maybe think about if your attitude plays a role in your miserable life.
Edit: I still ended up reading the rest and your way of twisting words and literally cutting my quotes to twist their meaning is truly disgusting. Any shred of sympathy I had for you with your original comment is gone. Im glad you probably dont bother many people in real life, assuming anything you wrote is true which doesnt even seem likely anymore.
Also read up on second hand smoke, because you obviously havent heard of it.
when the alternative is worse than quitting, it’s extremely difficult to quit
What are you referring to?
If I quit, I might live longer. Life is hell.
same. I’m not quite at the point of suicide yet but I definitely don’t need to live into my goddamn
80’s50’s. not here, not now.You shouldn’t express your suicidal ideations in public. It’s dangerous for other people. If someone feels bad for you and tries to help you avoid living longer without smoking, they could get in lots of trouble. You’re playing with fire.
I’m not sure what you are trying to say. Could you explain what you mean?
There are a lot of people on this website who believe in the right to die and would feel bad, seeing you suffering like this. They’d want to talk about your right to die with you. But they could get in trouble for that, because the pro-life people see that as encouraging suicide. You’re putting the pro-choice people in the difficult position of choosing whether to try to help you, or look after themselves.
Smokers are addicts that it’s “morally acceptable” to shit on. The self righteous love it.
In shitty times like that you gotta have all the fun you can ehehe :) hope you’ll get better friend!
When I was a teenager in the 90s, I once dated someone whom I thought otherwise to be a smart and collected girl.
Then I watched her and her friend rummage the side streets for half smoked cigarette butts that people had disposed of out their car windows. The bliss in their eyes when they lit up a half smoked one.
Looking through the eyes of an adult now, it makes me wonder why I continued to try and strike a habit myself over the next 2 years. Fortunate for me, it never seemed like my drug of choice, though I did find others.
Being addicted to anything will make you realize just how fragile “giving a shit” really is.
Bloody hell did that really happen?
You dated someone who picked up half smoked ciggies and smoked them? Was she homeless?
That’s so gross, only ever seen the truly fucker and desperate do that.
Punk shit
What the fuck? Gross. I have never needed a smoke that bad.
Don’t forget that smokers also get to ruin other people’s meals at restaurants. Not their own meals mind you - just the meals of others.
Where I live, you’re not allowed to smoke in bars or restaurants.
Also in the outside section? If yes I applaud your government for implementing the rule properly, not half-assed like in Germany.
I thought you wheren’t allowed to smoke inside anymore in Germany?
Smokers are still allowed to stink up your food outside. So you may enjoy your food inside in the summer.
Also restaurants are allowed to have an inside smoking section. Most of the time that means you still get to ‘enjoy’ the stink.
Lastly let’s not forget that smokers, when forced to smoke outside, will almost always do so right on the doorstep. So that the stink gets sucked in and everybody gets to enjoy a good second hand smoke.
Joke is on you - I only smoke in elementary schools, so my house is practically tar-free. Now what, science man?
Tobacco is one of the worst drugs ever. The best part is staving off the effects of addiction.
I’m so happy that I’m on 10 years without cigarettes.
quit 30 years now. quit because it was killing me. other corps are still trying.
