That happened. And then everybody clapped.
I mean it’s greentext. That part is always implied.
“I think you are the only man I can trust, should we try it out?”
Things that were never said for $2000, Alex
Who upvotes these phony MRA tales? Give me an effing break.
Do you know what a greentext is?
@Early_To_Risa This situation makes me think of the Meatloaf song “Two Out of Three Ain’t Bad”. There’s an interpretation of the song that the first part of it is about a man who tried to love a woman, yet he was turned down. Later in the song, the man is talking about how the woman has come back to him years later, but he has moved on.
Good on anon for not being a spineless simp.
There’s nothing wrong with not wanting to date someone years after you had feelings for them. However the body count reference gives me the incel ick.
My wife has fucked many people.
The important part is that she’s choosing to fuck me.
You mean sleeping with so many guys? That may well be true anyway. Doesn’t mean they’re an incel.
IMO anon’s statement about body count was badly phrased, but it makes sense for me under limited circumstances.
For the last few decades, my opinion has held firm on a simple philosophy:
If I never ask out a woman I’m interested in, and they date guy after guy, then I have nothing to complain about. They never knew about my interest, and so they were never given the chance to accept or reject my interest. There is no way in hell that I could hold their body count against them, and I have only myself to blame for not stepping up and asking them out when I had the chance.
But if I do ask a woman out, and they clearly and immediately reject me in favour of someone else, then I am obviously not an interest for them. They have clearly and unambiguously rejected me, so what standing do I have to not believe that? You can’t get a more sure sign. If they then rack up other relationships, each and every one of those is another nail in the coffin of any potential relationship. They have made an explicit statement that I am of far less desirability than other options, and that door closes permanently, and gets barred and locked for good measure.
Because if she comes sniffing around again, then it is screamingly obvious that I am not her second-best, third-best, or even n^th best option… I am her backup-backup-backup plan that she is “settling for” because all of her better options ran out.
And at that point… thanks but no thanks. That’s a path down which I have absolutely no desire to trod, because down that path lies doubt and second-guessing that can only poison me, my mental health, and my happiness. If she had no interest in me when I asked, then I will absolutely trust her for having told me the complete truth, and I will hold that truth as unchanging, unimpeachable gospel.
It’s understandable why you would feel that way.
People change all the time though.
Perhaps after some of those relationships, they found personality/stability to be more important than looks.Or maybe they’ve spent years regretting the decision, and the short relationships along the way failed because nobody could compare to you.
Or maybe they genuinely are as shallow as you think, and you’re the last resort in the dating pool.
You can never really know for sure.
I am replying to your reply to this post so that I don’t earn the ire of absolutely everyone. And perhaps I will not even earn yours. Perhaps… you will find some sense in what follows.
There was an unspoken rule for Gen-X — it was in many ways as you have described here. If you got rejected by a girl… that door was closed. And there wasn’t really room for friendship. If you got burned by a girl, you moved on and didn’t even pretend to like them. Done.
You could have friends that were girls if they had boyfriends you liked. If they had boyfriends you didn’t like, you could be friends with a girl you were attracted to, but only so that she might discover you.
Where I believe I run afoul of Millenials and Gen-Z is where I remind folks we just didn’t have a lot of girls who were just friends… we considered this a fantasy or just waiting.
It’s a kafka trap.
Except that circumstances change. So you might feel that now, or for most people, but you don’t need to make it a vow, because who knows what the future will bring.
Except that people do a lot of growing in their late 20s and early 30s. Both parties likely changed in personalities, priorities, and experience. The man she rejected years ago is likely not the same man she is attracted to now, nor is she the same person as her priorities have likely changed during that time too.
i will attest to that. my wife and i met when we were… 20? I always thought she was cute, we were always friends, but we didn’t go on a date until we’d been friends for about ten years. the both of us kept moving in and out of our hometown, crossing paths here and there until the second summer we were both there for more than two weeks at the same time. we finally went on a date, hit it off, dated for about six months, realized we weren’t going to get to know each other much better, rushed into marriage, blah blah. if we’d dated when we first met, we’d have broken up after a month. neither of us was mature enough for a stable, adult relationship. pretty sure it has nothing to do with how compatible or who we are, or who we’ve grown into. i was (and still am, just not quite so much i eat a lot) a little dork
Incel behavior
Incel behavior
Ah, there is that ad hominem I was expecting to crop up at some point, seeking to publicly shame me into silence.
And it’s a perfect example of intellectual bankruptcy, where someone is so bereft of a counterargument that the only tools left to them are those of shaming and ridicule. It’s feelings before facts, of a rage-consumed person so desperately intent on furthering their anti-male gender bigotry simply because that man exercises equal rights.
Because isn’t that what women have been fighting for over the last century? For the ability to say “thanks, but no thanks” and the ability to permanently close a metaphorical relationship door for whatever reason she deems personally appropriate?
Or is it “rights for me, but not for thee”? Is it that men simply do not have the right to say no, and do not have the right to permanently close that metaphorical door?
C’mon, this is the platform where you can let your anti-male gender bigotry shine! Don’t be shy! Be the flaming hypocrite you were meant to be!!
Sometimes I see the gender wars between you two feels like the moden day equivalent of cointelpro.
Both men and women are hurting on some level, and in recent times both of them lash out at one another. I think the biggest reason is that gender recently has been politicised (not 1:1 mind you), being primarly men on the right, and women primarly on the left.
Care to expand why? I’m genuinely curious.
…go to therapy…
Care to elaborate?
You had me until you brought up how many guys she fucked. Grow up anon
I mean… he took his shot with her 5 years ago, was rejected and then stayed friends while she went through all those other guys to then come back around and try to settle for him. I can see how he’d struggle with that. I’d probably feel like a last resort in that situation too. Also I think this story is rage bait so don’t get to invested.
it’s definitely incel ragebait.
It’s pretty clear to me that anon carefully crafted this story, no matter how much of it is actually real, to cast himself in the best possible light and show this woman as evil. It’s telling that in doing so he didn’t even realize that it reflected poorly on him to shame her for having sex with someone who wasn’t him.
Also, he assumes she’d even be happy with him but really he’d struggle to please a woman
You can tell that from an image of some text?
But have you considered that anon can’t count past 2 so everything else is countless.
i think this isn’t the main point of this meme. he’s hurt because he wanted to have a sweet teenage romance (or what feels like it) with that girl. that’s not possible anymore.
I get what you’re saying. But if it’s so irrelevant then why bring it up??
people are allowed free speech
We should pass a law making it legal that whenever someone deflects an argument with a non-sequitur appeal to “free speech” that they be hauled up on top of a giant pyramid and have their beating heart ripped out with an obsidian knife, their life a sacrifice to the great Sun god.
If you have any objections to my batshit insane proposal, you hate free speech and are a traitor to America… and Huītzilōpōchtli.
funny response, i give you that.
edit: but the difference is that yours is inciting violence.
Nice pearls, but you need not clutch them so
This is the dumbest response to a question I’ve ever received. You deserve a cookie
This is a deflection, not an answer. He’s also allowed to say she refuses to wear a T-rex cosrume in bed, but if it’s irrelevant why say it?
okay see that right there is a valid reason
I mean not wearing a T-Rex costume to bed could be a dealbreaker for an intimate relationship. I’d find it more understandable than the number of former partners.
Teenage romance in your mid 20s?
Well technically OP is now 30 so they’re less of a teenage figuring things out, and sad person.
Yeah but before the 5 years later they would be mid 20s.
some people grow up slowly and make typical teenage experiences in their mid-20s :)
i know that because i’m one of them. :)
my dude we all got our own paths and timing. don’t rush.
Why?
In many cultures and in many people’s minds - dare I say, most - sex and love are linked. If your starting assumption is that people should only have sex with others that they want to have a long term relationship with, then having a long string of partners indicates a general low level of commitment to any given partner. This would imply, given these cultural assumptions, that this person is not a good bet for a stable, long term relationship. And in cultures where chastity is seen as virtuous, these standards are applied both to men and women (if not entirely equally). A woman who is part of a conservative sect of catholicism, for example, would likely be less interested in a man who was known for sleeping around, rather than a man who has remained a virgin waiting for marriage.
Another perspective is that of fairness and dignity. Suppose OP and OP’s love interest are in middle school PE class, where they play pickup soccer. OP is good at soccer. But every day, OP’s love interest picks the rich kid over OP, because she knows that the rich kid always has their parents buy their team pizza after school. So OP sits on the bench watching the other kids play every day, and never gets pizza. Then suppose on the last day of class, the coach announces that the winning team in today’s soccer match will be guarenteed A’s for the semester. Now OP’s love interest picks OP over the rich kid. I think it would be quite understandable for OP to be put off by this behavior. They would feel like they haven’t been properly valued by their love interest, that they are now being used. I think an argument can be made that OP would be a better paragon of virtue if they let go of these bitter feelings - but at the same time, I think these feelings should be understandable to most people who make an attempt at empathy.
And another perspective, which I think is the strongest argument, is simply that people like what they like and don’t like what they don’t like. Our intrinsic sexual/emotional desires are largely not malleable. It’s time to stop pretending that people’s preferences are some kind of moral barometer. Those on the left have been making this argument for years after all. Gay men, for example, are born gay. No amount of conversion therapy changes this. Trans individuals are trans - if this were something they could change, don’t you think they would skip the social stigma and extensive medical procedures? Why wouldnt they just take the easy route of simply changing their minds, if their minds were something they could easily change? We could apply the same reasoning to, say, foot fetishists. They don’t carry the same stigma as gay or trans people, but there is still a definite stigma. And having a foot fetish entails being turned off by partners with “gross” feet. Life would be easier for them if they didn’t have this fetish. They would avoid the stigma, and their dating pool would be significantly increased - so if they had the choice, why would they not simply stop caring about feet? And we can similarly apply this logic to OP. As we can see from the comments in this thread, there is a stigma attached to caring about the number of partners a partner has had. And if you don’t care about this, you will have a much larger dating pool and life is easier. So if this were something which was easy to change, wouldn’t we expect people to change it?
As long as you’re not being a shitbag: who the fuck cares? Some people don’t like hookups, some do – and it can change depending on circumstances and what phase or like one is at.
Every day I become more convinced a lot of people get stuck at “teenager” when it comes to sex and relationships. It’s not hard: don’t be an asshole, don’t hurt people, and do what makes you happy.
for some people sex and love are always linked
I have had plenty of completely meaningless one night stands and been very happy about having fun, a nice time, feeling flirty, funny, full of lust, having and giving orgasms and enjoying nice company and the physical sensations of sex, to never see them again and be totally OK with that.
I also have deep love, admiration and connection with my partner which is just as special as a virgins first love. Because all love is great.
Can’t say that sex and love ie romantic love must go together but I’m a dude and I personally don’t enjoy the idea of commodified, hedonistic sex that’s is often peddled by the dominant culture.
To me (and to each their own) sex is pointless without a deeper connection.
Many women go from unable to climax during sex to easily doing so when a deeper connection and understanding is sought by their partner.
That isn’t to say that “meaningless” sex is bad. If both parties are down for it, by all means, have fun.
But I feel that sex is meant to be a spiritual experience. If I desire someone and they also yearn to share a deeper physical connection with me, they should feel my desire within their very essence of self, through my words and my eyes, before we even touch. Even when we do touch, intercourse would have to wait patiently in favor of foreplay so that my desire, my meaning, could first be communicated with my mind, body and everything else. Love making flows naturally from that state.
I was raised in a Western Christian nation where I grew up confused as two polar opposite attitudes towards sex prevailed. One was religious shame and guilt towards any type of sexual pleasure. The other was sexual liberation, which is undoubtedly an improvement, but it commodified sex, making it a hedonistic pursuit.
Ultimately it took reading on Indigenous thought on spirituality and intimacy, writings by Sufi poet Rumi on love and ancient Dharmic (South Asian) thought on physical intimacy (which centered sex on women’s pleasure, autonomy, and rights in sexual relationships) for me to understand what sex was for me.
I don’t disagree with anything here, and I feel similarly
TL;DR
I’m absolutely not reading this novel
Okay. That’s your right.
Sir this is a Wendy’s.
No, this is Patrick
This is some really disgusting co-option of LGBT identities to justify incel logic. Being gay is an intrinsic thing about someone. Judging someone for their number of past partners isn’t. One is innate, the other is cultural. You can instantly tell if you have an attraction to someone just by looking at them. A gay man looking at another man will instantly feel attraction if he’s his type. But number of partners? That’s something you can only learn by talking to someone. And there’s nothing innate about a person with more partners that makes them physically less attractive. Unless they have an STD, their body isn’t changed in any way.
People aren’t born with judgmental incel beliefs about the number of sexual partners other people have. Those are cultural practices, not innate aspects of a person’s physical being, like being gay or trans is. We have no evidence of such judgments existing among wild animals, while we have numerous examples of same-sex attraction in nature.
Are you saying that physical attraction is the only valid type of attraction?
A gay man looking at another man will instantly feel attraction if he’s his type
You’re confusing lust with attraction.
I don’t think I can blame Anon. “Should we try it out?” isn’t exactly stirring my passions, either.
Under the circumstances, it sounds like “you’re my least terrible option left, so maybe I can settle for you. On a trial basis, of course.” Uh, no thanks.
Bold of you to think anons story is real and straight
It’s more fun to play along, and unless I’m missing something, I kept it gender neutral.
Anon is on the internet. No girls there.
Anon had a girl interested in fucking him: fake.
Anon turned down a girl that wanted to fuck him: gay.
If by “straight” you mean heterosexual and you’re doubting the story is heterosexual, read it again. There are pronouns in there. This is a heterosexual story.
This is a heterosexual story.
Still gay though.
Is this your first green text?
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I’m glad you deleted your comment because I can still see it in my inbox and I was about to come here and rip you a new one 😆
Yeah, def overlooked a word or two.
#ImmediateRegret Glad I double checked the OP before “keeping” it there
NOOOOOOOOO!!! I NEED IT TO FIT IN THE PREDETERMINED BOX I HAVE SETUP FOR THIS GREENTEXT!!! IT HAS TO BE GAY BECAUSE I SAID SOOO!!!
I had no problem taking this innocent heartfelt greentext post at face value, but would you agree, the comments have been aneurysm-inducing.
Yep. I’ve run out of ideas, I’ll try settling with a heavy “maybe”. That’ll really make you feel like a potential partner values you.
Under the circumstances, it sounds like “you’re my least terrible option left, so maybe I can settle for you. On a trial basis, of course.” Uh, no thanks.
I think it’s more like “oh shit, lots of men are suddenly turning right-wing, and i’m getting afraid of them now, so please anon, protect me. i’m not actually into you, of course (who could be into you?) but at least you’re harmless.”
Sadly possible, but also a huge insult.
Most women’s social circles will not see men make any significant rightward shift in political opinion. Most peoples’ political opinions are fairly stable over time, and change slowly. Most people naturally spend time with people with similar political opinions. And if someone finds that they have significantly different political opinions than their peers, they will almost certainly keep it to themselves.
Right wing political spaces have a negative corrolation with female participation. The farther right a space is, the fewer women we expect to see there. And to the extent that there is a large rightward shift in men’s political positions, it is driven primarily by men who already leaned right. More left-leaning men, if they move right at all, would move right very minimally. The aggregate of minimal moves to the right across the bell curve would be noticeable at a statistical level, but would not be noticeable in most people’s actual social lives. Significant moves to the right would only be seen on the right wing side of the bell curve.
So if we accept your hypothesis, then we could also conclude that OP’s love interest is already involved in significanly right-wing spaces.
But the alternative conclusion, assuming your hypothesis is correct, is that OP’s love interest if more moderate/left wing (most women), but is chronically online and hears about men becoming more right wing.
Dating apps mix the social circles pretty significantly so it can also easily be a case of going on dates with randoms and seeing the shift that way.
Right wing political spaces have a negative corrolation with female participation.
yeah, that’s an interesting observation, which makes you wonder what is cause and what is consequence.
So if we accept your hypothesis, then we could also conclude that OP’s love interest is already involved in significanly right-wing spaces.
Yeah, that’s a likely outcome i guess. Girl falls for “strong” men in the past, suddenly realizes they’re all right-wing and potentially dangerous, suddenly tries to find a non-dangerous partner, or sth like that.
Anon got over their crush and got on with their life, nothing wrong with that at all.
Besides, it sounds like they’re about option J here, and it’s perfectly okay to not be happy about that.
“She fucked so many guys”
Uh…okay?
I think they’re trying to say that he doesn’t even feel like her backup, he’s her backup x times removed. Which kinda undercuts his point a bit, but does set the stage for a complete removal of attraction and the very particular manic ending they wrote for their story
There’s something insulting about being the one she wants to settle down with after a bunch of flings etc.
When’s my turn to have fun?
Who was stopping you?
Nobody wanted to have fun with me.
Then go to a tabletop game shop and have fun on D&D night, or Warhammer! Lots of fun there
Do you feel like you were owed “fun” from other people?
They were stopping themselves
It be true, I do stop myself
I hope some day you can reflect on this statement and realise the toxicity behind it.
Edit: I guess the downvoters don’t like to be called out?
What’s toxic about wanting better than being the backup option?
The toxicity is the weird incel framing around the whole thing. It leans heavily into incel tropes about how women sleep around with physically attractive asshole men when younger and then look for a more stable “nice guy” men when older. The trope is that women will reproduce with asshole gym bro types and then seek relationships with nerds to obtain resources to raise the children they’ve given birth to. It’s the classic cuckhold meme.
The “backup option” part is the toxic thing. It frames women as farm animals looking for a mate, rather than actual complex human beings with different desires and changing personalities through their whole lives. Aka, just like men. People change, and they want different things at different points in their life.
It’s not that the woman in the story fucked a bunch of guys and then, as a last resort, settled for OP. I mean, just think of how absurd that idea is. It is literally not possible to run out of people to sleep with. They don’t think OP is beneath them and have always felt that way, only settling for them now. Why would she need to? There’s no shortage of other men out there if she thinks OP is beneath her.
Rather, people just want different things at different points in their lives. OP didn’t tick that box years earlier, but now maybe he does. She wasn’t attracted to him then, but she is now. The heart just works that way sometimes. There’s no need to add a bunch of incel bullshit to what is easily explainable as the complexities of human emotion.
The reason this is so toxic is that it’s applying this weird bizarre manipulative behavior to the woman in the story - aka parroting incel themes. It accuses her of this deliberate years-long plot, working through a long list of men she finds superior until finally settling for OP. This isn’t how human beings actually behave. Instead, she just happened to not be attracted to OP before, but happens to be now. You don’t need to go into it any deeper than that. People are complex and their hearts change.
This “backup option” framing is just really toxic and creepy.
Nothing at all, but that last line, “When is my turn to have fun?” Is a bit transactional, like there’s an expectation and that’s the problematic part.
like there’s an expectation
you can have expectations from relationships. you don’t have to, and not every relationship has them, but it’s perfectly fine to have them, as long as the other person’s fine with that.
From yes. Of no.
Exactly, but also immediately assuming you’d be the “backup” on this and it of course cannot be genuine love.
Anon grows and changes in a 5 year span, and his romantic interests change.
Girls opinion on romance is different in 5 years.
“I don’t want to be the backup.”
Men can grow and change over 5 years. Women? Nah. She just wanted to fuck around and now she’s settling.
This train of thought is some terminally online shit. Then again, complaining that green text is some terminally online shit is insane in its own account.
And that was added by ilovethebomb
I think the toxic part is what was added by ilovethebomb. They never asked this and seemed to have genuinely moved on.
Why are you being charitable to a greentext poster lmfao. It’s like when the skinhead starts saying dogwhistles and someone is like “well maybe he doesn’t know it’s a dog whistle”.
Idk man, maybe you’ve not been exposed to enough 4chan.
sure, let’s just assume malice or ill intent whenever possible, and forget about any empathy or sympathy.
Bro. We are talking about a 4chan greentext poster. What more do you want me to fucking say? Are you joking?
i’m just tired of internet toxicity tbh. Not as in “Oh no, they laugh about Kirk’s assasination”, mind you, that shit is actually hillarious, neither i care about anyone’s political oriantation as long as they’re a decent human being. I’m talking about this unprompted toxic bullshit like “oh, they’re using this site, they must be a jerk!”. That’s literally the same rhetoric that politicians use to create “us vs them” narrative, except they do it on another basis like nationality or whatever.
Did your day go so wrong that you need to let it all out somehow, but this is the only way you found? Genuinely asking btw
btw, just so you know, thanks to some particularily heated instances over here, i’ve seen people with opinion just like yours but about the fediverse.
Let’s not act like 4chan has ever been anything but a infamous shithole that attracts shitheads. It has the worst possible reputation: it doesn’t attract good people. Sorry. You sound delightful, tho, all your pettiness and pretentiousness aside.
You tired of internet toxicity yet defend the archetype of toxic masculinity with this greentext. Is everyone upvoting this a Tate fan?
I’m not defending anyone. This story being made up is entirely possible. What I’m bothered by, and what i don’t want to let slide is the fact that people just assume malice from a person simply because they made a post on a certain website and not the on the other one around. It’s a scary tendency that, if extrapolated, makes internet into a place full of tribalism and hostility.
Also, you gotta explain to me, how the post is an example of toxic masculinity, and exactly what archetype do i defend from your point of view.
Incredibly toxic post btw.
Idk man, maybe you’ve not been exposed to enough 4chan.
Or maybe he has experienced enough 4chan to the point where he realises those hidden meanings.
??? 😭 we just out here defending incel-adjacent language being used on 4chan?
This video I feel explains why
That’s how you know its full of incel energy.
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Uninspired.
Turns out, being rejected by someone you’re in love with actually sucks, and that goes double if you were friends with them. Sure you can try and stay friends with them after, but whether that works depends a lot on your state of mind/mental health, the rest of your social circle and the state of your life in general (and on how the rejecter/friend acts, of course). Your average 4chan poster is spectacularly ill-equipped to make it actually work well, even if they somehow aren’t somewhat misogynistic.
At the same time, just keeping it to yourself is probably not a good option either, if you’re not the type who can actually move on after a while (e.g. by crushing on someone else).
Yeah I super get this. Back at the height of the whole “friend zone” thing I had been hanging out with a friend one on one very regularly and began crushing on her, asked her out at some point, she said she needed to focus on other things. A semester or two later, I asked if that had changed due to different circumstances in her life and she gave me a more direct no. She was pretty integrated into my friend group and my feelings were pretty badly hurt because we had been very close. Friends in that group would go on to ask why I’d never asked her out, under the assumption she was interested, and when I did eventually start dating someone else she tried to “talk me up” to that girl in a way that felt like sabotage to me. It’s hard to balance those feelings while remaining friends with someone. I was definitely at risk for falling down an incel hole around that time. Glad I didn’t
I’m also glad you didn’t fall down the incel hole, because then it’s likely that we wouldn’t have you here with us
Yep.
Something quite similar happened to me in my twenties. We had a pretty close-knit group of friends in university and in the second year one of the girls started to show signs of romantic interest in me. I was oblivious, of course, so my friends had to point it out for me. I was single and quite unexperienced with dating, so I thought “what the hell, why not?” So we ended up dating and I was starting to slowly fall for her.
Then we went to this student party together and we hung out with people as always. I went for a swim in the pool and when I came back, she came to me, looking extremely happy and said that she had just met this amazing guy and wanted to try things out with him. I stood silent for a few seconds and said “OK, it’s cool with me” . She smiled and ran off to her new man.
I got dressed, finished my beer and walked home. It was a long walk, but instead of disappointment and sadness I remember feeling immense relief, as I had just learned what “dodging a bullet” truly meant.
She and the new guy dated for maybe a year, before she lost interest in him - he really was a great guy, right at the start of their relationship he wanted to talk with me and he was genuinely sorry for “stealing my girl”. I assured him that I held no grudge and we became friends after she dumped him.
During their dating she quickly drifted out of our circle of friends by her own choice, so I got to keep things pretty much like they were before. I was always friendly towards her when we met and she did likewise. My friends were surprised that I wasn’t angry at her, but I told them that this was for the best and that I was happy how things had turned out.
Next year I found a wonderful girlfriend and I was happy. Few years later I happened to meet this “ex” of mine in a work-related seminar. When the seminar ended, I walked to the bus stop and saw her standing there. Turned out that we lived along the same bus route. Then she suddenly said “wouldn’t it be nice if you came home with me?” Like, WTF? She knew very well that I had been in a steady relationship for years and she had even met my girlfriend a few times.
She looked at me seductively and said “so, how about it?”. I’d known that she wasn’t stable, but at that moment I realized how truly fucked up she really was. “No, that’s not going to happen now or ever”, I said and walked away.
That was the last time I saw her. Few years ago I heard that she had been married twice or thrice before she was 40, and was single again.
Fake: anon has a female friend
Gay: anon isn’t interested in her
These stories are even more real and true than the real and true stories on r/aita. OP just forgot the part where the crying bald eagle stood up and clapped at the end
This particular fantasy (one day I’ll get to reject the women who rejected me first and they’d never be able to handle it as gracefully as I did) seems somewhat common among young men who have trouble connecting with women.
But the false premise at the center of it is that the man is such a good friend to the woman, and the woman’s dating/romantic life hasn’t found anyone nearly as understanding or kind or empathetic. And part of that belief is some kind of assumption that life is an RPG where everyone is allotted the same number of points to distribute, and anyone who is maxed on charisma must be less intelligent or empathetic or something.
Realistically, men who are friends with women tend to do better with dating and relationships than men who aren’t close to women. The friends of friends angle is a great pipeline for searching for partners, assuming your personality makes your friends comfortable connecting you with their friends.
Anon is valid to feel this way. Without condoning or condemning, I understand.
I honestly think it’s embarrassing and childish to get upset at somebody and immediately go, “Yeah well you fucked so many men!”
That’s in your head. Seems like you can’t see a reality where the girl is at fault. Misandrist much?
He got over his crush and got on with his life. There’s nothing evil about that.
